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Post by Maneki Neko on Aug 29, 2007 1:27:50 GMT -5
Yes, the Evelyn Ng Anti-Abuse Act of 2006. Basically, what happened was Roy and this guy named KungFuFurby voted for Evelyn Ng in accordance with the rules, and only they were voting.
So it was either I change the vote restrictions (and I hate doing it, because it's burdensome, plus it can be construed as a cheap move, ala Shelly's idea, which I know she's only doing because she has to have Jay Stewart and Shadoe Stevens up in the Hall of Fame. Why, I don't know. Neither one of them are legendary announcers, they're not even really that good.), or put this in. I went with it.
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Post by pokerjoker811 on Aug 29, 2007 23:42:42 GMT -5
I know. I read all of those threads. I think Furby may be the biggest jack(a-bomb) to ever vote in this series regularly.
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Post by Mistress Mandoli on Aug 30, 2007 0:49:10 GMT -5
(and I hate doing it, because it's burdensome, plus it can be construed as a cheap move, ala Shelly's idea, which I know she's only doing because she has to have Jay Stewart and Shadoe Stevens up in the Hall of Fame. Why, I don't know. Neither one of them are legendary announcers, they're not even really that good.) That's your opinion. Some people have their reasons for trying to keep a certain host/announcer/show out of the Hall of Fame, and whatever your reasons are for not wanting people like the two abovementioned, that's what you think. I'm not going to fight my opinions on this subject. But yeah... After we put an end to the Roy and Furby votefest to both "Monty Hell" and Evelyn Ng (which Roy stated that Evelyn burns his eyes for some bizarre reason), Roy left and Furby never comes back to cast a vote. At leat Furby gave other hosts some love. |
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Post by Maneki Neko on Aug 30, 2007 18:03:37 GMT -5
Her rationale makes no sense, that "The Freeze Frames aren't renewed, so why should the votes be?". The reason I don't allow more than 2 Freeze Frames in the main game is because if you look at it from a checks and balances ordeal, unless the host is getting (F-bomb)ed over big time, four freeze frames is way too many. That's 12 days that you can't vote for the host, not counting the bonus time given for the nomination. Why do you think MDCS is putting a restriction on the freeze frames used? He thinks that 4 on a host is giving it way too much power.
Plus the BD! is renewed after a Seek Revenge. Using her philosophy, it shouldn't be at all. I'm no authoritative expert on philosophy, but I have been around the block enough times to know a cheap move when I see one. The last point is that there aren't that many voters in UGSAS. With a 10-spot and the other forms of things to protect the announcers, you would need close to 2/3 of the voting populace to exhaust their votes for them to get the (f-bomb)ers out of there.
I don't honestly get why anyone would even like either of them. They're at very best, mediocre when you compare them to legends like Charlie Tuna, Johnny Gilbert, Rod Roddy and Johnny Olson. That will be the last I say about this topic, to try to keep this topic from turning into an all-out war.
As for Evie and Roy Boy, I don't really remember him saying that, but after running 20-odd installments of the series, it wouldn't surprise me. I have seen people vote or not vote for a host for the oddest reasons known to man. Actually, opinions and odd rationales are part of what makes the game a lot of fun, but it can be taken way out of hand, which is why Cancellation puts it all in balance.
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Post by pokerjoker811 on Aug 30, 2007 21:34:00 GMT -5
I think he just posted that in a UGSHS 15 skit. It was a bit about Roy going blind after Evelyn Ng took off her shirt, and it included a reference to a pukeworthy teen drama show, which you (thankfully) misinterpreted, Neko.
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Post by Mistress Mandoli on Aug 30, 2007 22:26:39 GMT -5
It was mentioned in quite a few posts after that, Ryan. When Evelyn removed her top, he just so happened to go blind. (Really (f-bomb)ing stupid, but what can I say?) Luckily, nobody has to go through with anything like that anymore, pending Roy's return and him taking a look at the Tournament of Champions.
I'm not going to fight over Shelly's game rules with anyone, but whatever she does is the last word. There's not a bone in my being that would talk to her about what she's doing. I don't even remember her changing the rules, and I'm not going to go back in time to see when she did change the rules to begin with.
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Post by pokerjoker811 on Aug 30, 2007 22:31:10 GMT -5
I'm just saying that it's how that got started.
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Post by Maneki Neko on Aug 31, 2007 0:24:24 GMT -5
I'm actually going to go look it up now. You've bent my ear.
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Post by pokerjoker811 on Aug 31, 2007 0:32:21 GMT -5
I'm good at that.  |
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Post by Maneki Neko on Aug 31, 2007 0:40:45 GMT -5
Sure as hell, buried in the middle (Page 30). I completely forgot about him being that much of an A-hole. Between him and KungFuFurby, I think you understand where I got the idea for Cancellation.
If he ever came back and looked at the Hall of Fame list, I think he'd be 12 shades of pissed.
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Post by Mistress Mandoli on Aug 31, 2007 1:53:42 GMT -5
Sure as hell, buried in the middle (Page 30). I completely forgot about him being that much of an A-hole. Between him and KungFuFurby, I think you understand where I got the idea for Cancellation. If he ever came back and looked at the Hall of Fame list, I think he'd be 12 shades of pissed. Right here is where all of the fun begins. I see no problem with Evelyn... Any part of her. |
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Post by Maneki Neko on Aug 31, 2007 17:20:42 GMT -5
Yep -- now I remember that. What was the reference anyways? I really didn't get it. Now it's time for a question that should provoke some thought: What do you think about the maligning rule? That is that if one or two people go way off on a tangent and endlessly bitch and moan about a host, that he or she will actually finish off higher than they would normally? I have seen this with a couple of hosts. Do you think that's what got Evie in the Hall of Fame in UGSHS 20? Do you think that's what got Monty in the Hall in UGSHS 16? Now, with Ms. Riordan, I knew it was going to happen eventually because she had been so close in the past. I'm sometimes surprised by final twos, but when it got down to 30, 25 and then 18 hosts and Riordan had only 2 votes against her, I think it was, I was pretty sure that was it. Also, do you think the 3rd time rule is valid? That if a host gets to the final two for the third time, that so many sympathy votes will pour in that the host will be inducted into the Hall of Fame? |
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Post by pokerjoker811 on Aug 31, 2007 20:10:58 GMT -5
The ToL has proven the 3rd time rule inaccurate, actually. Rick Schwartz only got constant....um.........support for the HoS his third time around by-yep, him again-Roy. Griffin got in much more easily than the numbers indicate. It took Chamber Boy until his 4th time in the final 2 to get dropped into the HoS.
Maligning rule? Well, I think that's the driving force for Evie, but I think Monty would've gotten in even without Roy's maligning him.
As for that reference: It was for the American Idol of teen sitcoms (i.e. grossly overrated and overwatched), Degrassi. I avoid teen shows and The N like the plague, but eventually some teenagers got me to watch one episode. In that episode, for some reason, an Aisan girl made a videotape in which she said, word for word, what Evelyn said in Roy's skit and did something you'd like, Neko: She lifted her shirt below the video camera's screen. The show is absolutely pukeworthy, and I'm relieved you missed the reference.
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Post by Maneki Neko on Aug 31, 2007 23:43:09 GMT -5
Actually, I think that the only reason Uncle Monty didn't get in during the single digits of the game was because of Roy Boy. As much as I hate to say it, he helped put the brakes on him multiple times.
Evelyn, on the other hand, I have no idea why the hell Roy Boy went after her, but you have a point. He just decided to pick on her and got Furby to cooperate and I got sick and tired of it.
Roy was definitely an interesting character. Only one that ever angered me. Plus, you're going to love this one, he actually asked me to relinquish my power during UGSHS 4 and for him to host the game. Even after I explained to him that it wasn't going to happen, much like the cement head that he was, he didn't quite get it.
When I introduced Cancellation, I flat out told people that I looked forward to the day I'd never have to use it.
As for the sole exception to this rule... I dunno. It seems to be an odd quirk. Most of the hosts that go up in the final two for the third time move on. I don't even need to tell you, well, maybe I do, about our oddest final two -- and the one that kept George Gray from the Hall of Fame, UGSHS 11... we had no mo shifts and the lead went back and forth multiple times. It was like nothing we had ever seen.
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Post by Mistress Mandoli on Aug 31, 2007 23:45:22 GMT -5
Remember, Roy was a pure Degrassi fan. He didn't go overboard with the fanboyish crap like I do with my crushes (though I would call it fangirlism than anything else), but in the past, there was a line in his signature or user title that stated he was a fan of the show. For some strange arse reason, I remember it.
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